2G 420A to 4G64 Swap.

[Boot92]

*Search didn't bring anything up on this except the opposite swap*

I want to do a 420A to 4G64 Swap, and I was wondering if anyone had any info on doing the swap? I assume it will be pretty easy considering it came in the Spiders.

Obviously I need

Motor
Tranny
ECU
Wiring Harness.

But is there any specific mounts I need or something? or is it just a drop in and bolt up??

 

[southrneclipser]

It is deffinately not a drop in and bolt up. The engines are completely opposite. As in the tranny is on the other side of the car. So you would have to pretty much redo everything. It is possible but it would be much smarter and cheaper to just by something with a 4g64

 

[black_gst]

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/420a-turbo-conversion/245163-6-bolt-into-420a-car.html

YOU DIDNT SEARCH VERY GOOD

AND THE 4G63 AND 4G64 are the same for the most part the 4g64 just has a longer stroke

 

[jrohner]

The car itself is different under the hood because the engine doesn't even sit the same way. The whole entire wiring harness is different as well, because the Chrysler 420A's have a Chrysler ECU under the hood, while the Mitsu 4g64 cars have a Mitsu ECU behind the stereo. GSX's and especially GST's have gotten pretty cheap now, especially if they need work. You'll be money ahead if you buy one that needs some work and sell your car.

What you want to do is basically turn a Chrysler into a Mitsubishi. A non turbo Eclipse is pretty much just a sporty Dodge Neon.

 

[Boot92]

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/420a-turbo-conversion/245163-6-bolt-into-420a-car.html

YOU DIDNT SEARCH VERY GOOD

AND THE 4G63 AND 4G64 are the same for the most part the 4g64 just has a longer stroke

I don't know about you, but last I check 4G64 and a 6 bolt 4g63 are different engines.

so does the 4G63 Bolt in the same as a 4g64 because I was told it didn't when I was planning on doing the swap in my old 1G. I'm new to 2G's so you don't need to be an asshole and there is nothing in the link you just gave me about a 4g64 swap.

and I could have sworn I looked at a Galant with a 4G64 in the junkyard awhile back and engine and everything was set up the same was a 420A would be.

 

[jrohner]

He's not being an asshole at all.

Yes the 4g63 and 4g64 are basically the same. The 4g64 block is just a little taller.

I don't know about you, but last I check 4G64 and a 6 bolt 4g63 are different engines.

I bet I could set a 1.6, 1.8, 2.0, and a 2.4 side by side and you couldn't tell the difference then.

"last i checked", you shouldn't call someone else an asshole because you don't know something.

 

[black_gst]

I don't know about you, but last I check 4G64 and a 6 bolt 4g63 are different engines.

so does the 4G63 Bolt in the same as a 4g64? I'm new to 2G's so you don't need to be an asshole and there is nothing in the link you just gave me about a 4g64 swap.

well again you need to do reasearch. and i dont remember being rude to you so why dont you watch who you call an asshole buddy a 4g63 and a 4g64 bolt in the same so 1st you should read up on the differences between them

Search Results - DSMtuners

and with some reading you will see that they are very similar and they both have the cams on the driver side

along with all the same engine mounts. the major differencs is they are SOHC engine

GL

 

[jrohner]

You'd be best off using one of the newer engines that are put in the other way (like a newer Galant, Sonata, Optima, Evo), at least one thing would be somewhat right. I hope you're really good at fabricating and wiring. You'll spend all this time fabricating to get the engine to fit, then you have to get it to actually run.

well again you need to do reasearch. and i dont remember being rude to you so why dont you watch who you call an asshole buddy

+1

 

[Boot92]

well again you need to do reasearch. and i dont remember being rude to you so why dont you watch who you call an asshole buddy a 4g63 and a 4g64 bolt in the same so 1st you should read up on the differences between them

Search Results - DSMtuners

and with some reading you will see that they are very similar and they both have the cams on the driver side

along with all the same engine mounts. the major differencs is they are SOHC engine

GL

Well then you guys need to stop telling people false facts, because I inquired about the same swap except in a 1G and I'd be swapping out a 1.8L and you guys said it wouldn't work.

and I know my way around 4G37's and 4G63's Very well, I am sorry that I don't have unlimited access to every engine in the world, so I have put ZERO hours of wrench time on a 4G64, I've only seen a 4G64 once in person in a junkyard and that was for about 15 seconds because I was focusing on pulling a fresh 4G63 that had gotten there that day.

You guys need to get over yourselves and accept some people aren't as experience as others.

 

[jrohner]

Well then you guys need to stop telling people false facts, because I inquired about the same swap except in a 1G and I'd be swapping out a 1.8L and you guys said it wouldn't work.

and I know my way around 4G37's and 4G63's Very well, I am sorry that I don't have unlimited access to every engine in the world, so I have put ZERO hours of wrench time on a 4G64, I've only seen a 4G64 once in person in a junkyard and that was for about 15 seconds because I was focusing on pulling a fresh 4G63 that had gotten there that day.

I don't see any false facts here yet, except that the asshole comment seems like it was aimed at the wrong person.

 

[Boot92]

I don't see any false facts here yet, except that the asshole comment seems like it was aimed at the wrong person.

I was told awhile back on here you couldn't do a 4G64 Swap in a 1.8L 1G because they bolt up completely different.

and that's a False Fact, because If the 4G64 Bolts up the same as a 4G63, then it bolts up the same as the 1.8L except for 1 Engine Mount like in a 1.8 to 2.0L swap.

anyways My question has been answered.

 

[black_gst]

wrench time doesnt matter i myself have never worked on a 4g64 and i read alot about them and everything i read was on this site... all you have to do is look for it

I was told awhile back on here you couldn't do a 4G64 Swap in a 1.8L 1G because they bolt up completely different.

and that's a False Fact, because If the 4G64 Bolts up the same as a 4G63, then it bolts up the same as the 1.8L except for 1 Engine Mount like in a 1.8 to 2.0L swap.

anyways My question has been answered.

hey arent you the guy who lied and made up a fake dyno sheet


amazing that you can go through the trouble of making a fake dyno sheet but cant take the time to do some research



i guess we know who the asshole is

 

[jrohner]

wrench time doesnt matter i myself have never worked on a 4g64 and i read alot about them and everything i read was on this site... all you have to do is look for it

hey arent you the guy who lied and made up a fake dyno sheet


amazing that you can go through the trouble of making a fake dyno sheet but cant take the time to do some research



i guess we know who the asshole is

Right on with everything he said ^

I motion we Boot Boot. Who seconds it?

 

[viperlp01]

it is the guy that was going to build the 1.8 BEAST!

 

[dallu22]

Now thats funny....... Some Advice.....Go to Sears......Get Some Tools......Do Some Work.....Quit Acting like a Know it all....Turn Some Wrenches.....Learn about your car.....and quit posting threads just because you can. Ive been reading through all your post and...wow just wow....150 some odd post of BS.....
Its like these guys have said 5 minutes with the search button and you would have found 99% of your answers

 

[jrohner]

Hey, I'm sick of 400hp, Boot can you make me a better dyno sheet so I can feel cool again too? I don't care if it's HP or WHP

 

[dallu22]

Me too i need a Car with 500000000 HP and 450000000 Torque Powered by a mutant hamster.....can we arrange that?

 

[jrohner]

Me too i need a Car with 500000000 HP and 450000000 Torque Powered by a mutant hamster.....can we arrange that?

nice! I'd go for a little more torque though. Give rabies to the mutant hamster and you'd be set.

 

[viperlp01]

Here comes the bi*** fest.. This thread is going to turn epic soon ..

 

[dacowgod]

i'm pretty sure the 1.8 being referred to was not the eclipse 1.8 but the 1.8 found in the mirage turbo.. and the 1.6 was probably out of the colt turbo if I remember right... all of the blocks are vitually identical besides bore and deck height. I may have gotten the 2 engines backwards but the point is its not the 4g37 found in the T/E/L's

 

[black_gst]

Right on with everything he said ^

I motion we Boot Boot. Who seconds it?

i 2nd that no one want a liar hanging around. hes like that friend you have that you always try and avoid, you ignore his calls and always find some reason that makes you to busy to hangout . i hate habitual liars.

hey Boot have you heard the phrase " you dont have to lie to kick it."?

try it sometime

 

[LandoAWD]

Enough. All of you.

Prodding and poking this cat is only going to encourage this negative behavior he seems unable to control.

 

[NeMiZiS]

Isn't this swap going to basically be the same as swapping a 4g63 into a 420A car?
From what I understand it is possible, but just not really worth the amount of work.

 

[jrohner]

Yeah we tried to tell him it was almost exactly the same, but it just made him angry for some reason.

 

[moidsm1]

Later 4G64's were built opposite. This is a 99 Spyder GS

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