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Road Course oil starvation

Posted by rival, Sep 6, 2017

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  1. rival

    rival Proven Member

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    I have just installed a new factory pan that I had some trap door baffles welded in. getting ready for a race end of the month so I can let you know how it works out.. I also installed the Canton accusump 3qt unit, so heres to hoping that will keep everything lubed up LOL.
     

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    1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD

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  2. ec17pse

    ec17pse Freelancer

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    Just for future use i finished my pan and it holds well in a long fast sweep left corner! I used to see a small oil pressure drop but now it holds fine, the design could be alot prettier and refined i guess but it works and keeps the oil in the pickup chamber now,

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  3. gsxitement

    gsxitement Proven Member

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    During the off season I'm gonna do an accusump. Had some bouncing oil pressure through the bowl at Lightning. Changed the oil and over filled a little bit, about half a quart, and it was fine.
     
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  4. ist dwa

    ist dwa Proven Member

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    Super interesting thread, love the input. I know this may sound dumb, but what would happen if you just say 6 or 6.5 qts of oil in the stock pan?
     
  5. turbosax2

    turbosax2 Moderator

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    I put in at least 5.5 quarts with my stock pan and haven't observed any bad dips on the road course from oil pressure being logged in ECMLink. I don't know my cornering forces, though.
     
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    13.543 @ 100.000 MPH
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  6. talon77

    talon77 Proven Member

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    I also put in at least 5.5 quarts in stock oil pan. I think you just don't want toooo much oil such that the crank slaps up on the oil in a way-overfilled-pan so that it creates air bubbles (no good), but I'm not sure if 6.5 qts is high enough to do that.
     
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    1994 Eagle Talon TSi AWD

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  7. chinola69

    chinola69 Proven Member

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    There is someone that modifies the 7 bolt pan to hold more oil. No modification to the baffles just a larger capacity pan, 1.5 -2 qts more. Would that be helpful?
     
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    1999 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX

    14.840 @ 0.000 MPH
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  8. jakelandry

    jakelandry Proven Member

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    3d print a 1" thick spacer that bolts between the pan and block, extend the pickup an inch, get the English racing gear and a kiggly HLA and I'd be willing to bet most problems would go away.
     
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    1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX

    11.410 @ 125.490 MPH
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  9. ec17pse

    ec17pse Freelancer

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    Dont forget to modify the DP aswel but the other issue is the pan is already flush with the bumper, if you go any deeper then you out it in more risk of hitting it on something
     
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    1997 Mitsubishi Eclipse GST

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