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Coolant Temp Sensor from hell.......?

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femmeDSM

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Oct 31, 2004
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I've been having problems with my ECT. At first, I found a loose wire (yellow one) which I soldered and re-connected. This seemed to fix the problem for a couple weeks. Then, the other day, my car became excessively hard to start when cold, and shortly thereafter (lo and behold) my car threw the dreaded Coolant Temp Sensor CEL again.

I checked the wiring, it was good. I also checked the voltage at the little plug, and it was within specs. I figured the problem might be with the sensor itself, so I went to check the resistance, following the FSM's instructions of "measuring resistance between the two terminals". Well....I got down there and found that one of the "terminals" was...er...gone. :notgood:

I assume (haha) that this means that I will need a new sensor ( :rolleyes: ). I will order one this week...

My weird problem is this, though:
I tried unplugging the ECT completely, and starting the car (just to see what would happen, for curiosity's sake). My guess was that the car wouldn't start at all, since the engine was cold, and the car hadn't been started in over 24 hours. Not so.....The car ran better than it has ever run - idle was smooth, no random stalling, drove and boosted perfectly, just like nothing was wrong. WTF ???

I thought a bad ECT made the car run like crap (or not run at all). Why would unplugging this make my car super happy?

Just curious. Maybe someone has some insight on this. I'm quite puzzled.
 
Hmmmm... Possibly when you had your coolant temp sensor hooked up it was malfunctioning in a way that it instantly sent your car into the closed loop fuel control system even though your car was cold? And when you unhooked it your PCM saw the car as being cold 100% of the time, meaning that start-ups would be easier and it would run as it should before it would've went into closed loop? From your post it sounded like it was only having problems with hard starting, and then after it was disconnected it started perfectly, so that would be my guess. In any case, be thankful you found the problem. I'm happy for you!:thumb:
 
Yeah, that does make sense. The problems I was having were mostly with hard starting, but I was having some mildly annoying and mysterious idle/stalling issues, as well (replaced almost everything idle-related, so my guess is whatever was up w/ the ECT was the last straw).

It's funny - I was actually attempting to demonstrate what would happen if an ECT went bad. I distinctly remember saying "Now watch, when I unplug this, the car won't start".....Lol. I guess my car showed me who was boss :p
 
Just an update...
I replaced the bad ECT and the car runs beautifully, as expected :) No more persistent CEL, no more hard starts. Finally I have a driveable DSM, after many many months of "one thing after another" type problems. woohoooo.

Steve, I owe you one. You told me to check my ECT wayyyy back in the beginning, and I only checked voltage, rather than checking the actual unit. :coy:

Take a look at this sensor, though. Gee, think it's bad??!! :rolleyes: (sarcasm...)....This is the ECT that I pulled out of my car. It's completely missing the vertical power terminal (which was nowhere to be found, btw). WTF I'm beginning to think that there are NO parts on my car that haven't been molested or screwed with in some way. :toobad:

Note: Pay no attention to my dirty fingernails....Been working on the car for the past two hours, and i'm out of the good lava soap, haha.
 

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Just an update...
I replaced the bad ECT and the car runs beautifully, as expected :) No more persistent CEL, no more hard starts. Finally I have a driveable DSM, after many many months of "one thing after another" type problems. woohoooo.

Knock on wood:thumb:
 
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